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John McIntyre

Alastair — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:41:43 GMT

I got sent in some genealogy of John McIntyre a minister that wrote some interesting information about his parish. Mind you I do have some problems reading it so if anyone can work it out do send me a translation

You can see this at http://www.electricscotland.com/webc...ntyre_john.htm

Alastair

The Earl of Stirling's Register of the Royal Letters

Alastair — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:39:05 GMT

Relative to the affairs of Scotland and Nova Scotia from 1615 to 1635

This is another book we're making available as a pdf download. The main reason for doing this is that most of the letters are in the old Scots language and thus not suitable for ocr'ing.

I will say this book gives a fascinating insight into this period of Scottish history and is well worth a browse if you have the time.

Here is the introduction...

THIS Work was originally intended to be issued by the Bannatyne and Abbotsford Clubs, and was partially proceeded with for that purpose at the time they were dissolved; it has. therefore been deemed advisable to produce the Work in a form which will range with the publications of these Clubs. In the opinion of competent persons who have examined the MS., it imparts more authentic and copious information on public affairs at the period which it embraces than an)- other record, apart from the Proceedings of the Privy Council. Of these Proceedings it is at once supplementary and illustrative. The Earl of Stirling, whose fame as a Poet has survived his reputation as a Statesman, was one of the most remarkable men of his time. From James VI., in 1621, he received a Royal Letter authorising him to establish a Colony in the territory situated between New England and Newfoundland, whereupon followed a Royal Charter under the Great Seal, appointing him Lieutenant-General of the new Colony. Designated New Scotland, the Colony embraced a large portion of Canada, also that Settlement which, alter a century and a half, produced the State of New York. Consequent on the plan for colonising New Scotland was founded the Order of Nova Scotia Baronets, of which the early history constitutes no unimportant part of "The Register."

"The Register" includes many entries illustrative of Scottish social and domestic life in the earlier portion of the seventeenth century; details relating to family history, and warrants appointing to public offices; also a narrative of leading contemporary events. The story of the debased coinage introduced by Charles I., and of the attempt made in the same reign to thrust on the Churches of both kingdoms a metrical translation of the Psalms, ascribed to King James, is related with admirable minuteness; while other strange episodes of attempted legislation are set forth with chronological precision. Among the details of general administration are numerous State Papers relating to educational and ecclesiastical affairs; also in relation to commerce, both at home and abroad, and the concerns of the Admiralty and Merchant Shipping. There are numerous entries connected with the administration of justice, appointments to offices of trust, and the levying of troops for foreign service. As many of the Letters were directly inspired by the King, the contents of "The Register" are, in relation to the personal history both of James and Charles, especially valuable. Politically, no Scottish MS. of the seventeenth century is more essentially instructive.

Precious as one of the few authentic records of State Proceedings in Scotland, at a period when the will of the Sovereign was nearly paramount, and when royal favouritism had attained its zenith, "The Register" embraces a record of public transactions from the year 1615 to 1635, more especially for the latter half of that period. The Work, in other words, is a transcript of the Royal Letters, Proclamations, Warrants, Instruments of Gift, and other documents issued by Lord Stirling when he held office as Secretary of State for Scotland. The Documents were entered in "The Register" by Lord Stirling's relative and amanuensis, Alexander Alexander, whose services were latterly compensated by his appointment to a Macership in the Court of Session. There are three folio volumes, of which two are preserved in the Advocates' Library, the third and most important in the General Register House. When, on the ruin of his estate by his colonial enterprise, Lord Stirling became embarrassed, two volumes of "The Register" fell to his creditors; these were at length deposited in the Advocates' Library. The remaining volume, in possession of William Trumbull of East Hampstead, one of his descendants, was, in 1759, presented by that gentleman to Major William Alexander, the American claimant of the title. The volume afterwards got into the hands of Mr. John Caley, who, in 1792, presented it to Mr. Thomas Astle, the Archaeologist, by whom it was handed to the Lord Clerk-Register, for preservation in the Register House.

Prefixed to the Work is a Memoir of Lord Stirling, together with an Historical Introduction embracing a narrative of the events recorded or proceedings described in "The Register." A copious Index of Persons, Subjects, and Places is appended to the Work. As the impression is strictly confined to one hundred and fifty copies, each copy will bear a number attested by the Publisher. The two volumes are now offered to Subscribers at Five Guineas for Small Paper and Ten Guineas for Large Paper Copies; and as the impression is so limited, the Publisher has been instructed to reserve the right of shortly increasing the price.

You can download the two volumes at http://www.electricscotland.com/book...al_letters.htm

Alastair

Golspie, Contributions to its Folklore (1897)

Alastair — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:33:24 GMT

This is a book about Golspie and we are making this available as a pdf download but I have ocr'd the Introduction for you to read so you can decide if you'd like to download it.

Part of the Introduction I'll copy here...

We had left the pleasant uplands of Glen Shee for the sands, the waves, the bracing breezes of Nairn�and to our dismay Nairn was full already. We had then turned our eyes to the varied coastline opposite, stretching away for league upon league toward the Orkneys, and had resolved to try Tain. We had found Tain peaceful and picturesque�but alas! its shores were not for the feet of the paddler or the spade of the digger, and so we had sped northward still, to Golspie. And at Golspie we had found all that we craved. On the north of the bay, where we first sought it, there was just sand enough�we had not yet seen the miles of smooth sand which lie south of the village. Before us, across the steely sea rose far and dim the line of Moray hills; while in front of us the seabirds swam, wheeled, and settled. Behind, brown kye and snowy geese were dotted over a broad belt of green pasture. To left stood the woody heights and gleaming turrets of Dunrobin. To right swept a low shore backed by a crescent of mountains. And Golspie Burn! with its beautiful fall, babbling rapids, and clear pools of brown water! its rocks and trees and ferns and mosses! and its dusky rabbits scudding away wherever we bent our steps! Yes, certainly we should have found content at Golspie�even if the Sutherland Arms had been less homelike; even if our host, the Duke's whilom gardener, had not joined to it one of the most delightful of simple old-fashioned gardens; even if every noontide a robin (or was he an enchanted prince?) had not come in at the window and by his example gracefully invited us to partake of the newly spread luncheon.

I had gone into the village one morning to buy something, and as I came back the boys and girls were at play in the steep playground which slopes down from the School to the road. I stood looking at them, and especially at a game which some of the girls were playing. They were dancing in a ring, reciting as they danced, and then they would suddenly reverse and dance the other way round, still reciting. Presently some of the younger ones�children of perhaps seven or eight� came down and formed a ring in the road before me. In a minute or two some of the older girls did the same. I thanked them all and spun up a sixpence for them to scramble for: then they had to go back into school and I went on to the Sutherland Arms. There I sat down and wrote the proposal for a prize-competition from which you will find some extracts at p. 328.

Not being quite certain how that proposal might be generally received, I took it to the Minister of the Established Kirk at Golspie, Dr. Joass, a geologist and archaeologist of far higher than 'local' rank, and always ready to help those who come to him. Armed with the assurance of his sympathy, I next approached Mr.James H. Loudon, the then master of the school, now a master in Kelvinside Academy, Glasgow. He at once entered heartily into the plan, and it is to him that I owe the possibility of carrying it out.

You can read the rest of this Introduction and get to the book at http://www.electricscotland.com/hist...spie/index.htm

Alastair

History of the Town of Greenock

Alastair — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:39:18 GMT

By Daniel Weir (1820)

Here is the Introduction...

IN presenting this first "History of the Town of Greenock" to the notice of the public, the Author is perfectly aware that many motives may be assigned for so doing. But what led to this attempt, was the fact that many places, less entitled to notice than this flourishing sea-port town, had their rise and progress set before the public, while here we were comparatively unknown. Whether this brief sketch will find its way to any thing like a favourable reception from the public, remains to be seen; and the Author is perfectly aware that there are many individuals in the community more qualified to do justice to the task than he who has drawn up its pages. But what is "writ is writ." To those gentlemen who favoured him with communications to the queries sent abroad, it is but too little to return his most sincere thanks. To William Macfie, Esq., of Langhouse as also to John Speirs, Esq., M. D.; James Leitch, Esq.; John Mennons, Esq.; Robert Carswell, Esq.; Mr. Wi!ham Heron, and Mr. Cohn Buchanan; it is but justice to state, that their information on various subjects was of the greatest use, and consequently made available in this compilation. Various sources of information have been gone carefully over; and this work has been in in no small degree indebted to ''Crawford's Renfrewshire;'' "Woodrow's Church History;'' "Chalmers' Caledonia;" ''History of Scotland;'' and ''Sir John Sinclair's Statistical Account." If any thing is to be regretted, it is the seeming want of arrangement which may appear in the work; and this has arisen, in a great measure, from information coming in when the book itself was in progress through the press. In regard to errors, it is hardly to be expected that a first attempt at history can be entirely free; but whoever may be called upon to write a second edition, either soon or at a more distant period, can avail himself of such information as the present volume contains, and on this a fabric may be reared more worthy of public support. To the numerous friends who came forward to patronize this effort, more than mere gratitude is due; and they may rest assured, that the feeling which the Author entertains of their kindness is not likely to be soon effaced. It is not to be expected that this rallying round an individual should disarm Ihir and honourable criticism. The book is put forth with the consciousness of its containing many faults; and if any other person had come forward willing to engage in the task, every information and aid would have been given, and a more perfect record might have been produced of the history of a town, which has risen in importance and greatness scarcely equalled by any place in the neighbourhood.
END.

This book actually had no chapters and thus was all one chapter but I felt that it would make it easier to read if I split it up somewhat and so it is now in 15 parts and we have the first part up now with other parts added daily until complete.

You can read this book at http://www.electricscotland.com/history/greenock

Alastair

Our 'Ol Buddy Jay

Deb — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:20:10 GMT

I keep in touch with Jay...he's a good one....can't let him get away. :bigwink:
Anyway, he wanted me to let y'all know he doesn't have internet anymore. He said to tell y'all he's doin great & has started a new job. He works as a guard with the prison system and he LOVES it! He said he wishes he's found this job 18 years ago. I've got a picture of him to post on here with his permission, if I can figure out how to do it.....

There he is! LOL

I feel terrible

Glesgalass — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:08:51 GMT

I did an awful thing today. I ran over and killed one of the parrots in the carport. I know that they hang around there and always try to drive in slowly to give them a chance to fly away. Poor thing. :frown:

Elda

"Papa Bear" is FOURTY NINE

1938 Observer — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:20:49 GMT

Here is our very own Steve..hard at it for the forum :hug::bow::dance::party::roflmao::pullhair::wave:

Just hit the link and watch him working.....

http://www.offthemarkcartoons.com/ca...2003-04-13.gif

or..just relaxing :smile:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y8m29ZLX5a...EARS+COLOR.jpg

The Bard is Back...

The Bard — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:24:38 GMT

Hello to all on ES.....

I've just joined in to the new Forum and am hoping to participate in your discussions.
It's been a lang time since I last was here but I hope to catch up with all the auld geezers of ES and meet all the new ones...

Take care

Graham

Cowal Pipe Band Championships: all the Grade 1 performances

1938 Observer — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:10:11 GMT

Cowal Pipe Band Championships: all the Grade 1 performances :bow::clap::clap:

.01 September 2010 07:00 GMT
Scotland on TV.

VIDEO: The Cowal Pipe Band Championships took place on Saturday, the last major event of the 2010 season - and STV was on hand to capture all the performances

Taking place as part of the Cowal Highland Gathering, the pipe band championships is the last major calendar event of the year - meaning that all the top bands were competing for top spot in Grade 1, which ranks as the best of the best of the pipe band world.

This year there was a bit of an upset on the cards, as Boghall and Bathgate Caledonia won out over some competitors that may have been more fancied. It was a superb result for the outfit who are well known for nurturing new talent, and we talked to their members immediately after the result to get their reaction. You can see their set above.

They beat Field Marshal Montgomery into second place, who provided as usual a fine performance, and with that finish secured the Champion of Champions trophy for 2010, which was richly deserved after a strong season.

In third place at Cowal was St. Laurence O'Toole, and though their set wasn�t enough to secure them a winner�s spot on this occasion, they�ll be delighted to cap off a season which saw them crowned World Pipe Band Champions earlier in August.

Always vying for a place, ScottishPower were as usual up among the top bands, and their performance was enough to give them fourth spot.

Only in their first season in Grade 1, Inveraray and District added to their fairytale rise up the ranks to take a prize home, by coming in fifth with a typically confident set.

There were plenty of other great performances from the Grade 1 bands, and you can find your own favourite in the list below.

ALL THE COWAL PIPE BAND GRADE 1 PERFORMANCES

Go to the link to see/hear all the bands

http://scotland.stv.tv/highland-game...-performances/

Building the ships of tomorrow

Alastair — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 00:02:00 GMT

Scotland built the largest passenger liner in 1938 but is still making shipping news even today.

Seventy-two years ago, the largest passenger liner ever seen was launched in Scotland on the River Clyde.

The Cunard line's RMS Queen Elizabeth, capable of seating 2283 passengers and 1000 crew, left Slipway 4 of the John Brown and Company yard in Clydebank. The floating of Elizabeth, designed to carry mail between the UK and New York, cemented Scotland's position as a global shipbuilding powerhouse.

Now a new golden age of marine engineering is beckoning, with Scotland's shipyards playing a key role in the delivery of the largest craft ever commissioned for national defence.

Setting new standards
The global industry may have declined since thousands watched Elizabeth's launch in 1938 but Scotland's reputation for excellence in the field remains intact.

International banks, luxury retail malls and digital media organisations now occupy many of the former boat yards on the regenerated Clyde waterfront, but Scotland's maritime engineers continue to deliver the same excellence.

In July 2008, the Ministry of Defence announced it was to embark on a building programme for the largest ships ever to enter Royal Navy service.

A significant part of that �39 billion Future Aircraft Carrier project will be completed in Scotland and work is already underway on the Clyde and in Fife.

Two of the largest blocks of the two super ships, the HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales, will be built in Glasgow by BAE Systems in their Govan and Scotstoun yards.

The massive bow section and the assembly of the entire ships' parts will be undertaken at Number One dock at Rosyth � the largest dry dock in Britain, owned by Babcock Marine.

These ships will be the size of three football pitches in length and the aircraft will be stationed in hangars below deck, each hangar the size of 12 Olympic swimming pools.

It is hardly surprising then that a three-year programme is aiming to recruit 1000 new Scottish engineers to meet the demand of an industry which is one of the fastest growing sectors in the UK.

"It's a fantastic time to be involved in engineering in Scotland. The training you get by working on naval vessels is absolutely first class," said Peter Hughes, Chief Executive of Scottish Engineering. "The chances young engineers coming into training are going to get over the next 10 years, 20 years and beyond are fantastic and deserving of envy."

An unrivalled pedigree
At its peak, shipbuilding in Scotland employed 100,000 people. In 1913 there was more tons of shipping launched in Scotland than in America and Germany combined.

As well as RMS Queen Elizabeth, which remained the largest passenger liner in the world for 56 years, Scottish yards were also responsible for famous ships like the QE2 and the Royal Yacht Britannia.

Now the modern Scottish yards are becoming centres of excellence for complex warship construction and repair.

Contracts flooding in
Not only will the Royal Navy Future Aircraft Carrier project buoy the industry for the next decade, order books are brimming.

Another major contract which has seen a record investment in Clyde yards is the �5.5 billion Type 45 Air Defence Destroyer Programme. Six ships � the most advanced of their kind in the world � have been built on the Clyde by BAE Systems Surface Ships. The first of these vessels, the �605 million HMS Daring, was the biggest ever launched at Scotstoun when it left the slipway in 2006.

Since then, HMS Dauntless, Diamond, Dragon and Defender have left BAE's Govan yard, with tens of thousands of people lining the dockside each time. The final ship, HMS Duncan is expected to be launched later this year.

Each vessel measures 150 metres long and is capable of greater firepower than the entire Type 42 fleet they have been built to replace.

Accommodation for servicemen and women is luxurious, with on-board fitness centres and the best in communications technology, including internet connections and individual ipod docks.

Opportunities for tomorrow
With major contracts to service, opportunities are opening up for the next generation of Scottish engineers and shipbuilders. BAE Systems Surface Ships runs the largest private apprenticeship programme in Scotland and employs 4000 people across its two Clyde yards.

Rosyth is the UK's main location for the maintenance of the Royal Navy�s fleet of ships and Babcock Marine employs 1300 highly skilled workers, including a growing number of apprentice engineers. Scotland is also the only part of the UK offering a new HNC Shipbuilding Qualification which will be recognised throughout the industry.

It may be over seven decades since the world witnessed the launch of the largest ever passenger liner on the Clyde, RMS Queen Elizabeth, but Scotland still boasts an enviable reputation when it comes to constructing first-class ships. 'Scottish-built', it seems, is still a badge of honour the world is proud to wear.

Quake at Christchurch, New Zealand

Alastair — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 18:13:12 GMT

Just heard there was I believe a 7.4 quake in New Zealand near the Christchurch area. No news pictures as yet but I heard reports of a row of shops had been flattened.

Alastair

Ross of Hanyng-Stewart-Hamilton-Creichton-Campbell, scenario

Kelly d — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:32:13 GMT

My mother emailed me this article and asked me to post while she is on holiday in Colorado.

Our mita DNA, which is maternal dna matches Elizabeth Creichton.

__________________________________________________ __________

Quote:

Surnames: Creichton, Ross, Campbell, Hamilton, Covile, Lockhart, Stewart

When Sir James Hamilton of Fynnart was granted the barony of Ochiltre on Dec. 19, 1530 by James Colvile of Uchiltre (SEE "Register of the Great Seal of Scotland", Vol. 3, 1513 - 1546, page 214, No. 978), his charter -- toward the end -- reads:

"....RESERVATO libero tenemento 36 marcat. terrarum aut circiter in Uchiltre, et 7 librat. aut circiter in Bernweill et Foultoun, Domine Eliz. Creichtoun sponse quondam Willelmi Colvile de Uchiltre....."

Elizabeth Creichton was the mother of Jonet Campbell who married (1) George Ross in 1529, and then (2) John Campbell, and (3) John Lockhart (SEARCH here on Rootsweb's Aryshire general board for the post "Notes on John Campbell" dated 22 July 2006). And now, in 1530, we have her identified as a widow for whom land has been reserved land in the barony of Ochiltre -- with no mention of any husband, who could have been named in the reservation along with her.

Presuppositional reasoning shows that Sir James Hamilton during the 1530's would have known Elizabeth Creichton, grandmother of John Ross, and could have arranged a marriage between her grandson and Mariota Hamilton, who undoubtedly was the illegitimate daughter between Hamilton and Mariota Stewart of Avendale. PLUS, it was during this same time that Hamilton "traded" Ochiltre for Avendale, held by the Stewarts. One couldn't ask for a better chain of events, or for a better time-line for these events to have occurred!

Jonet Campbell's father was identified as Matthew Campbell (of the Loudoun family) when she was "officially" legitimized on Dec. 28, 1538. Matthew Campbell was a "King's man", and does not occur in the Scottish archival records after the battle of Flodden, indicating that Campbell met his death in that battle -- as did his King. It is well documented that family members of fallen fighters at Flodden had many privileges bestowed upon them, among which was the right to marry whomever, whenever, the survivor might choose. Elizabeth Creichton must have qualified for this privilege because here we have a woman who is holding land, but appears to have no husband!

For me, this is another indication that the various families in this Ross of Hanyng scenario have been correctly identified and placed. Although not literal statements of fact, circumstantial evidence which springs from research is ignored only by fools.

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This will be the beginning of our search. I will try to verify this with the National Archives in Edinburgh.

Allie, Thanks for the great article...

Kelly d — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:03:14 GMT

Allie,

This week you have really out-done yourself for adding article and books. I really am enjoying the Peter Ross story. This MacDonald DNA article is fantastic!

http://www.electricscotland.com/hist...ndClansmen.pdf

This professor has put the DNA explination in simple english for every day people to understand.

There is a link in the DNA that is original only to the peoples of the Isles.

The Dark in the males is very dominent in all my Mom's side of the family. My daughter Katy is the only female born with the Dark hair and eyes.

Thank you again for all your hard work. It is greatly appreciated!

Old Scottish Scenes

1938 Observer — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 05:52:36 GMT

The Singing Street: children playing in Edinburgh (1950s

Children's games filmed in the back streets of Edinburgh accompanied by traditional children's songs.

Two girls twirl two long skipping ropes, a third girl runs in to skip as they all sing, the film slows to show the skipping action. A girl glides down the street on roller skates - not quite in control!

The clip is from The Scottish Screen Archive collection. For more information about this film including details of how to obtain a copy please follow this link:
http://ssa.nls.uk/film.cfm?fid=0799

The Scottish Screen Archive holds thousands of films and videos from Scotland's 20th-century history. The archive contains everything from home movies and advertisements to educational films and documentaries. There are films detailing technical processes and others showing the imagination and innovation of Scottish film-makers over the years. http://www.nls.uk/ssa/

First day at school

This short clip from the educational film "OUR THREE R'S" (1961) shows the wonder of a wee boy's first day at a Scottish primary school. His mother walks with him to school and leaves him happily in the playground playing with the other children.

The Coming of the Wee Malkies

The Coming O The Wee Malkies by Stephen Mulrine

Whit'll ye dae when the wee Malkies come,
if they dreep doon affy the wash-hoose dyke,
an pit the hems oan the sterrheid light,
an play wee heidies oan the clean close-wa,
an bloo'er yir windae in wi the baw,
missis, what'll ye dae?

Whit'll ye dae when the wee Malkies come,
if they chap yir door an choke yir drains,
an caw the feet fae yir sapsy weans,
an tummle thur wulkies through yir sheets,
an tim thur ashes oot in the street,
missis, what'll ye dae?

Whit'll ye dae when the wee Malkies come,
If they chuck thur screw taps doon the pan,
An stick the heid oan the sanitry man;
When ye hear thum shauchlin doon yir lobby,
Chantin, "Wee Malkies! The gemme's a bogey!"
Haw, missis, what'll ye dae?

WWII Homefront UK

1938 Observer — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 05:29:38 GMT

WWII Homefront Part 1 - UK

It is 1943 and Germany are bombing London as civilians shelter in Piccadilly tube station. The aftermath shows the damage as people clear up. Meanwhile we witness the Germans including Hitler and Goering planning.
There is also a look at the Women's Auxiliary Air Force and Women's Auxillary Territorial Service. There are new recruits, some still in civilian clothes. We also witness maintenance being carried out as well as the activities of the land girls and ATS girls being taught.
Forward to D-Day and the ships are tied in the harbour while soldiers carry out chores and kee a look out for remaining enemies.