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    'Islamization' of Paris a Warning to the West

    'Islamization' of Paris a Warning to the West
    from CNN.com Sunday, September 26, 2010 by Dale Hurd CBN News Sr. Reporter

    PARIS - Friday in Paris. A hidden camera shows streets blocked by huge crowds of Muslim worshippers and enforced by a private security force.

    This is all illegal in France: the public worship, the blocked streets, and the private security. But the police have been ordered not to intervene.

    It shows that even though some in the French government want to get tough with Muslims and ban the burqa, other parts of the French government continue to give Islam a privileged status.

    An ordinary French citizen who has been watching the Islamization of Paris decided that the world needed to see what was happening to his city. He used a hidden camera to start posting videos on YouTube. His life has been threatened and so he uses the alias of "Maxime Lepante. "

    Lepante's View

    His camera shows that Muslims "are blocking the streets with barriers. They are praying on the ground. And the inhabitants of this district cannot leave their homes, nor go into their homes during those prayers."

    "The Muslims taking over those streets do not have any authorization. They do not go to the police headquarters, so it's completely illegal," he says.

    The Muslims in the street have been granted unofficial rights that no Christian group is likely to get under France's Laicite', or secularism law.

    "It says people have the right to share any belief they want, any religion," Lepante explained. "But they have to practice at home or in the mosque, synagogues, churches and so on."

    Some say Muslims must pray in the street because they need a larger mosque. But Lepante has observed cars coming from other parts of Paris, and he believes it is a weekly display of growing Muslim power.

    "They are coming there to show that they can take over some French streets to show that they can conquer a part of the French territory," he said.

    France's Islamic Future?

    If France faces an Islamic future, a Russian author has already written about it. The novel is called "The Mosque of Notre Dame, 2048," a bestseller in Russia, not in France.

    French publisher Jean Robin said the French media ignored the book because it was politically incorrect.

    "Islam is seen as the religion of the poor people, so you can't say to the poor people, 'You're wrong,' otherwise, you're a fascist," Robin explained.

    The book lays out a dark future when France has become a Muslim nation, and the famous cathedral has been turned into a mosque.

    Whether that plot is farfetched depends on whom you ask. Muslims are said to be no more than 10 percent of the French population, although no one knows for sure because French law prohibits population counts by religion.

    But the Muslim birthrate is significantly higher than for the native French. Some Muslim men practice polygamy, with each extra wife having children and collecting a welfare check.

    "The problem of Islam is more than a problem of numbers," said French philosopher Radu Stoenescu, an Islamic expert who debates Muslim leaders on French TV. "The problem is one of principles. It's an open question. Is Islam an ideology or just a creed?"

    "It doesn't matter how many there are," he aded. "The problem is the people who follow Islam; they're somehow in a political party, which has a political agenda, which means basically implementing Sharia and building an Islamic state."

    In Denial or Fed Up

    From the 1980s until recently, criticizing or opposing Islam was considered a social taboo, and so the government and media effectively helped Islam spread throughout France.

    "We were expecting Islam to adapt to France and it is France adapting to Islam," Robin said.

    About the burqa controversy, one French Muslim man told a reporter that Europeans should respect Muslim dress. One Parisian woman wearing a headscarf said "the veil is in the Koran" and "we only submit to God and nobody else."

    But even if many government elites are in France are in denial over Islam, the people in the streets increasingly are not. Some have become fed up with what they see as the growing Islamization of France.

    They've started staging pork and wine "aperitifs," or cocktail parties in the street. They're patriotic demonstrations meant to strike back against Islam. Another national demonstration is planned for Saturday, Sept. 4.

    A Warning to the West

    The French parliament is expected to debate the burqa law in September. Jean-Francois Cope, president of the Union for a Popular Movement political party, has a warning for the West and for America.

    "We cannot accept the development of such practice because it's not compatible with the life in a modern society, you see," he said. "And this question is not only a French question. You will all have to face this challenge. "


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    Re: 'Islamization' of Paris a Warning to the West

    Does this mean the' end of the beginning' or the ' beginning of the end ' ?

    As Colonel Muammar Al-Gaddafi - Libyan political leader is reputedly to have said:-

    We don't need terrorists
    we don't need homiside bombers.
    The 50+million Muslims [in Europe]
    well turn it into a Muslim continent
    within a few decades.

    "There are sign that Allah will
    grant victory to Islam in Europe
    without swords, without guns,
    without conquest.
    Last edited by Ranald; 3rd October 2010 at 10:26. Reason: added 2 words

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    Re: 'Islamization' of Paris a Warning to the West

    Scary, isn't it?

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    Well, at one time Christianity was doing this to indigenous peoples in lands thay Europeans had claimed as colonies under the so-called "Christian" Doctrine of Discovery, which gave Europeans the "right" to claim as property land and people not under the rule of a Christian monarch, and to treat them as they pleased since not being Christian they weren't real human beings yet. Native peoples were forced to convert to Christianity, to speak the language of the colonizers, forbidden to practice most if not all of their traditional culture, and enslaved to pay their Christian master "back" for the food they ate and the resources they used as these now belonged to the masters. You still see this practiced in many places in Latin America where the encomienda system keeps the Native peoples in perpetual penury and de-facto slavery.

    Over here, Christianity was used as justification to strip us Native folks of everything including our dignity. Whole tribes were wiped out or sold off into slavery to advance "Christian civilization". Beginning in 1878 here in America, Native children were forcibly removed from their parents and sent to government-supported and church-run boarding schools where - under the philosophy "kill the Indian to save the man" - they were subjected to all manner of physical, emotional, verbal, and sexual abuse in the name of Jesus Christ. Up to 25% were murdered or died from the abuse. Our cultures and religious practices were outlawed by an act of Congress in that same year, an act not repealed until 1976, and for many years this law was brutally enforced.

    And the Indian Wars are NOT over. We still have to fight to hang onto the lands we have left and the resources, our culture, our children, and our rights under the law (which seem to be largely ignored in many places). White folks have been over here 518 years and still know next to nothing about the First Nations of the Americas, and most of what they think they know is stuff they've made up. Christians tend to treat Traditional Native people with contempt, damning us as heathens despite knowing nothing about our actual beliefs (and every tribe has its own unique tenets). Even those of us who follow Christ are derided unless we turn our backs completely on our tribal cultures and become white culturally. Even those who do that are still treated as "different". Me? I'm Cherokee all the way even though I'm walking around in the white man's culture. And the Lord and I get along just fine, thank you.

    From personal experience I can tell you that as a general rule I have never been treated with disrespect or been dealt with dishonestly by any Muslim. If I had a penny for every time I've been treated that way by someone who called themselves Christian I'd be very wealthy indeed.

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    Re: 'Islamization' of Paris a Warning to the West

    I agree that most of do not know too much about the native Indian people. However not long ago I did put up the book about John Ross, chief of the Cherokee, and it was a bit of a revelation to learn how well they were doing before the white man got involved.

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    I did watch a great television series a few years ago on the treatment of the Native Americans and the ill-treatment/forceable removal and the methods used to subdue their culture, unfortunately I cannot remember the title of the series, maybe TanasiWoman or someone else has seen it and could advise me of the title.
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    Re: 'Islamization' of Paris a Warning to the West

    It may be a cliche by now. But reading "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" can be an eye-opener.
    With no intent what-so-ever to minimize the mistreatment of American Indians in any way, there seem to be a number of parallels between the Highlanders (and how they were treated by the English) and the American Indians (and how they were treated by the U.S. government.
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    Re: 'Islamization' of Paris a Warning to the West

    With no intent what-so-ever to minimize the mistreatment of American Indians in any way, there seem to be a number of parallels between the Highlanders (and how they were treated by the English) and the American Indians (and how they were treated by the U.S. government.

    There certainly is a parallel. Indigenous culture killed off piecemeal by a stronger culture with atrocities committed by the dominant culture on the indigenous culture because the dominant culture was afraid of them.

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