Slavery

[Kelly d]

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In many of my references which were left in the States in storage, the white indentured were sometimes called 'white trash' by other whites as well as blacks in the South.

I do know each slave was given food, clothing and medical care by their owner. Most were not allowed to be married while they served their indenture out. The indenture females who fell pregnant out of marriage were taken to court.

Here is an example of one of my ancestors:

Jeremiah Howell (son of Nancy Howell) was born ABT 17732934, and died 1824 in Lewis County, West Virginia2935. He married Mary Ann Warner on 1793 in Pendleton County, West Virginia2936, daughter of John Warner and Ann Walker.

Notes for Jeremiah Howell:
1787 Pendleton County, Virginia formed from Rockingham County.

June 23,1788 Rockingham County, Virginia court minute book states, "Ordered that Jeremiah Howell, a base born [illegitimate] child of Ann [Nancy] Johnson, late Howell, be bound to William Cowell by the Overseers of the Poor."

Rockingham came from Orange County which parent county was Chester PA.

Jeremiah and Mary's son John who married Annie Wilson died a pauper but Annie Wilson Howell left a legacy for her children. Therefore they had to have been separated for years. This is the Wilsons from Col. Ben Wilson who was the Ancestor of Woodrow Wilson.

Captain Stephen Ruddell (Riddle) from John Riddle who served in General Forbes Army was given large tracts of land from his military service in which he gave his children and sold to other settlers who went to Kentucky. He did have indentured whom was recorded in the Rockingham and Pendleton County court records. They were given 150 acres each upon release.

[miolchu]

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Actually, if you read up on the history of Scotland in the timeframe of the Jacobite wars. A great many Scots were enslaved and transported to caribbean sugar plantations or to the American colonies. This was way beyond repression of rebellious highland clans or exploiting clansmen by greedy factors.

[Rick]

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Thanks Alastair, a worthy but complex line of inquiry. My first observation is that a comparison between slaves and clansmen may not be entirely appropriate inasmuch as slaves were at the material time considered as chattel property, like livestock, and not as human beings. Although the poor clansmen were indeed oft' oppressed, I don't believe their fundamental humanity was ever at issue. Thus, the better comparison might be how the Clan chiefs treated their horses and cattle as against how the American plantation owners treated their slave labour force.

As to how Scots viewed slaves and slavery, I found Neil Oliver's "History of Scotland" presentation of the famous Joseph Knight vs. John Wedderburn court case fascinating. Although this issue developed in Jamaica, there would have been little difference to practice in the U.S. at the time and the record shows the enlightened Wedderburn as oppressively paternalistic rather than wilfully or indifferently cruel. The series also discusses the tension between human values and economic imperatives that slavery represented at that time, as well as the role of Jacobite escapees like Wedderburn promoting the practice. The YouTube reproduction of the video series starts at

and continues in the next clips.

You could also probably find a good deal of information by reading President Andrew Jackson's views on slavery. His parents came from Scotland and he is widely referred to in the context of America's double-think on this part of its history.

It's a huge question you've taken on, and I wish you well. Thanks!

[LuRose Williams]

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A very good oration and thank you....In my Geneology searching, I oftentimes run acorss Ochiltrees that have strange first name, I will go further and see their etnicity as Black and Slave...some records would state whether or not they were indentured. A lot of the refugees after Culloden were youngsters and the families sailing to America, one of the parents may have died or both parents...that child would go to another family.Or, a child may need an education, and be taken by a family of means and that would indicated Indenture until age 18 or schooling ended...

For the most part, the Patron of the plantation did well by his slaves. They all had housing, comfort, food, would have their right of religion. After the slaves were freed by law, they did not know what to do..some of them would have been three genrerations at one plantation. That was most of all their lives. I have several Scot ancestors that held slaves, simply because, the Indian Wars kept the plantation away protecting the neighborhoods, so the slaves would take care of all the crops..the southerners had no machines as the northern did, meaning all cotton and tobacco, etc had to be hand gathered...the slaves knew if they did their work properly, the massa would always be there to take care of their needs...

I can reflect back to the old movie of The North and The South, the slave overseer master was very cruel but they were mean because they were power hungry and beating the slaves gave them a high...

According to Lyon in Mourning by Dr. Forbes, the account after Culloden by Alexander Stewart, explains,,the exiled on the Gildart were mostly indentured to the wealty plantation owners of MD and VA...these were the rich men of Scotland that had come here at the 15...The govenors of Md and VA were at the wharf awaiting the slavers to arrive so they could buy or pay their passage of the Rebels of the 45.

I would like to say that our Scot forefathers were good men and good to their slaves...

As an afterthought, when our ggrandfather died, his will had one statement...:: He had been in the service of Capt MacClanachan of Britain in the war, and now at death he has been released from the indenture to Capt. MacClanachan. Of course, I have no way of proving the circumstances..I will continue to search.

[LuRose Williams]

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http://www.raken.com/american_wealth...gistration.asp

Here is a link to wealthy plantation owners that I snapped from the net...I don't know if anyone would be interested in reading...

[Kelly d]

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Because this topic is very close to my heart, I will furthur my mother's explanation by copying a bit of my own story here at ES.

Alexander Stewart was herded off the Gildart in July of 1747, bound with chains. Stewart was pushed onto the auction block in Wecomica, St Mary’s County, Maryland. Doctor Stewart and his brother William were attending the auction, aware of Alexander being on that slave ship coming from Liverpool England. Doctor Stewart and William were residents of Annapolis and brothers to David of Ballachalun in Montieth, Scotland. The two brothers paid nine pound six shillings sterling to Mr. Benedict Callvert of Annapolis for the purchase of Alexander. He was a slave. Alexander tells of the other 88 Scots sold into slavery that day in “THE LYON IN MOURNING” pages 242-243.

A Doctor David Munro from Scotland sent me this information back in 1996. I thought he had done it to prove who one of our ancestors were but it lit a fire in me to find out why white Scots were actually sold into slavery. The word 'indentured' is attached to many of my Scottish ancestors but never slavery until this accounting above.

[LuRose Williams]

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A very good oration and thank you....In my Geneology searching, I oftentimes run acorss Ochiltrees that have strange first name, I will go further and see their etnicity as Black and Slave...some records would state whether or not they were indentured. A lot of the refugees after Culloden were youngsters and the families sailing to America, one of the parents may have died or both parents...that child would go to another family.Or, a child may need an education, and be taken by a family of means and that would indicated Indenture until age 18 or schooling ended...

For the most part, the Patron of the plantation did well by his slaves. They all had housing, comfort, food, would have their right of religion. After the slaves were freed by law, they did not know what to do..some of them would have been three genrerations at one plantation. That was most of all their lives. I have several Scot ancestors that held slaves, simply because, the Indian Wars kept the plantation away protecting the neighborhoods, so the slaves would take care of all the crops..the southerners had no machines as the northern did, meaning all cotton and tobacco, etc had to be hand gathered...the slaves knew if they did their work properly, the massa would always be there to take care of their needs...

I can reflect back to the old movie of The North and The South, the slave overseer master was very cruel but they were mean because they were power hungry and beating the slaves gave them a high...

According to Lyon in Mourning by Dr. Forbes, the account after Culloden by Alexander Stewart, explains,,the exiled on the Gildart were mostly indentured to the wealty plantation owners of MD and VA...these were the rich men of Scotland that had come here at the 15...The govenors of Md and VA were at the wharf awaiting the slavers to arrive so they could buy or pay their passage of the Rebels of the 45.

I would like to say that our Scot forefathers were good men and good to their slaves...

[Alastair]

In this video I'm actually trying to compare how people were treated in Scotland against how the slave owners in America treated their slaves. I am thus trying to find a factual account of a Scottish slave owner in America so I can do some comparisons. And so this video is to open up this discussion.

You can watch the video at

And if anyone can contact me with a resource to help me in this research I'd appreciate it.

Alastair