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  • Alastair
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    I did some more research and added a page at http://www.electricscotland.com/hist...ca/slavery.htm

    I am just starting work on a book about the trials of the Skye Crofters which you'll be able to read in the next month or so. It will show how they were treated at about the same time period.

    Alastair

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  • Kelly d
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    Here is another great resource.
    http://digital.lib.ecu.edu/historyfi...ew.aspx?id=mct

    http://dougnichols.blogspot.com/2008...usic-with.html
    Last edited by Kelly d; 13 June 2011, 10:33.

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  • Kelly d
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    Stephanie found a really great resource last night. I am very proud of her.

    http://www.history.org/foundation/jo...ng05/scots.cfm

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  • Alastair
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    I'm really looking for a description of running a plantation which hopefully would also talk about how the slaves were treated. That said you can simply click on "manage attachment" under the edit window and you can attach pictures to a message. However to get that option you need to use the Advadvanced editor

    Alastair

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  • Stephelain_69
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    I am trying to figure out how to post stuff I will get it. I have some drawings of early slave life, but don't know how to post it here.

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  • Stephelain_69
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    Here is a webs ite that might be helpful;
    http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2009/0...-white-slaves/
    Stephanie

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  • Stephelain_69
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    The Second Confederate Flag, also called the "Stainless" banner had the Southern Cross as a canton (blue St-Andrew's cross saltire) on a red field. The cross was said to be due to the Scottish ancestry of many Southerners and the popularity of "Ivanhoe" and other novels by Sir Walter Scott. It served for most of the war as the National Flag of the Confederacy. Due to the large expanse of white, it was difficult to see at sea and could be confused for a flag of truce.

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  • Kelly d
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    Gordon,

    You have done very well! I use Dobson all the time in my work!

    Mother still has me hunting a few of our ancestors and emailed me this link. I find it extremely INTERESTING....

    In terms of American colonial society (Virginia and Maryland to 1775), the following list of names is interesting: The American correspondents of London-based Duncan Campbell were mostly users of slave labour.


    Here is a list of them: Duncan Campbell's correspondents from the index to his business letterbook 1772-1776: including, Allison and Campbell, William Adam, Samuel Athawes, Colonel William Brockenbrough and Austin Brockenbrough, Dr John Brockenbrough, Adam Barnes and Johnson, James Bain, Rev. Mr Beauvoir, James and Robert Buchanan, George Buchanan, Robert Cockerell, Messrs Campbell and Dickson, Colin Currie, Stewart Carmichael, William Dickson, Charles Eyles, Fitzhugh, Fauntleroy, Richard Glascock/Glascook, Benj and Charles Grimes, Henderson and Glassford, Rhodam Kenner, Abraham Lopez and Son, James Millar Jamaica, Daniel Muse, Hudson Muse, Hugh McLean, Joshua Newall, George Noble, Francis Randall, Major Henry Ridgely, Adam Shipley, William Snydebottom, Richard Stringer, Alexr Spiers and Co., Spiers, Finch and Co., Dr. Sherwin, William and Edward Telfair, Tayloe and Thornton, Charles Worthington, Cooper and Telfair.

    Any lists given above of convict-transporting ship managers given for North America, then Australia, are the first-found mainstay-names for England's long-use of convict transportation from 1718 to 1867.

    http://www.merchantnetworks.com.au/p...nvshippers.htm

    This is a beginning of names to research who were involved in the trade. I hope it helps!

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  • 1938 Observer
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    Black History Month, Ayrshire Archives

    "To mark Black History Month, Ayrshire Archives began research in October 2003, into the history of Afro-Caribbean people who were in some way linked with Ayrshire during the 18th and 19th centuries.

    By focusing on the evidence from the archives we hope to encourage others to come forward with their research on the subject and to inspire future investigations into our multi-cultural past and present."


    This site is well worth examining, it contains many reports and letters, also Scottish owned plantations

    http://www.ayrshirearchives.org.uk/e...hist/index.htm

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  • 1938 Observer
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    Here is an article from "The Barbados Free Press" July 8, 2009

    Scottish Sugar Slaves In Barbados vs. African Slave Trade: Do Mr. & Mrs. Bourne Want To Forget or Remember?


    The full article is at........

    http://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.c...t-or-remember/

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    Barbados and Scotland Links 1627-1877

    David Dobson
    This book by David Dobson tackles the subject of Scottish emigration to the island of Barbados. Drawing upon a wide range of manuscript and published sources originating in Barbados, Scotland, England, the Netherlands and the U.S., the author here identifies about 2,500 Scots or their progeny who made their way to Barbados. Most of these emigrants left Scotland in the 17th and 18th centuries. Since vital records comprise a large number of the sources for this book, the researcher will find that most Scots are identified by name, date/place of birth, baptism, marriage, or death; name of spouse or parents; and sometimes occupation, reason for transportation, ship, religious or political persuasion, miscellaneous pieces of information, and the source.
    http://www.genealogical.com/products...1877/9863.html

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  • 1938 Observer
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    Originally posted by Alastair View Post
    Actually it was more how Scottish slave owners treated their slaves. And that's any slaves be they black or white. I wanted to compare that with how Scots were treated at home in Scotland in roughly the same time period. What I hoped to find was some factual account or book of a Scottish slave owner and how he ran his plantation and how he treated his slaves in the process of running the plantation.

    Alastair

    This may be a start to the quest,??? [I'm still searching for more references].

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    A nation’s shame: leading historian says sorry for failing to confront Scots’ role in slave trade


    Herald,Scotland. Published on 21 Mar 2010

    The nation’s leading historian has apologised for failing to focus on the shameful connections between Scotland and the slave trade, and accused the country of collectively shying away from facing up its own involvement with slavery for too long.

    Professor Tom Devine made the “mea culpa” and spoke out about Scotland’s connections to slavery in the final lecture of his 40-year career at Edinburgh University
    His controversial thesis, Did Slavery Make Scotland Great?, suggested Scotland has focused too much on its own “colonisation” by England during the Highland Clearances and confronts the role of Scots in one of the darkest episodes of world history
    Professor Devine argued that there was a close relationship between the Scottish economic transformation of the 18th century and slave plantations that were owned and run by Scottish masters
    His lecturer was made at a conference entitled “The transatlantic slave trade and plantation slavery in the Americas: Exploring Scottish connections”, jointly organised by Professor Frank Cogliano of Edinburgh University and Professor Simon Newman of Glasgow University, and attended by a cadre of internationally renowned historians.

    The acclaimed historian added: “If you look at the telephone directory for Jamaica it’s stuffed full of Scottish names. These are people who have taken their names from their Scottish masters.

    “The jewel in the crown in the Caribbean was Jamaica, which was the single richest colony in the British Empire during the 18th century. We know that and we have evidence that the Scots were the dominating force in Jamaica.

    “Their owners didn’t want to live in this lethal environment so they were absentees. A lot of young Scots went out there, including one Robert Burns, who was about to go out to a post in Port Antonio in Jamaica in 1786 when he made his money with his poetry.”

    Scottish academics have always skirted round the issue of Scottish slavery because it was mainly thought that the nation had not been involved. Professor Devine expressed regret in the lecture that in earlier studies he had also failed to realise the impact slavery had on the nation and omitted references to Scottish slavery in his past work.

    Professor Devine apologised for his actions, saying: “There were a couple of references in the index to slavery [The Tobacco Lords: A study of the Tobacco Merchants of Glasgow and their Trading Activities c. 1740-90, which was published in 1975] but none of them raised the issues I’m now trying to raise. So as I said at the lecture in Edinburgh, ‘Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa’ - which means in the Latin tradition, my apologies, my very great apologies.”

    His latest research shows thousands of slaves were involved in the trade from Scottish ports such as Greenock, Port Glasgow, Glasgow, Montrose and Leith.

    Although not hugely involved in the actual “hands-on” side of the slave trade, Scotland played a considerable role in financing slave economies in North America and the Caribbean.

    He said: “We know that there were only 4500 to 5000 slaves traded directly from Scottish ports and that’s from over four million in the British Empire. So the Scots didn’t play a significant role directly in the trading of slaves.

    “But the theory I’m advancing is that they did have an enormous role in the plantation economies of North America and the Caribbean, which could not have existed but for slavery.

    “There were two million slaves in the British Empire by the 1800s and 80% of them were based in the Caribbean, where sugar plantations were the main industry. Much of Glasgow was built on the money earned by the city’s tobacco barons – such as Lord John Glassford, after whom Glassford Street is named – who were involved in the slave trade.”

    In the 19th century, Scots prided themselves that they had not been associated with the trade which they saw as centred on cities such as Bristol, London and Liverpool. They also had huge pride that they were in the vanguard of the anti-slavery movement.

    In the 20th century, there was a rise of nationalism in the 1960s and 1970s and Professor Devine believes Scots became more interested in their own past, celebrating being victims of colonisation, and chose to forget their own links with slavery.

    Professor Devine said Scotland should be able to admit to its relationship with slavery and accept it. He added: “If we are a mature democracy we should be able to take it on the chin. Every society’s history is light and shade, and a mature democracy faces its past, warts and all.”
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile...rade-1.1014869

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  • Alastair
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    Actually it was more how Scottish slave owners treated their slaves. And that's any slaves be they black or white. I wanted to compare that with how Scots were treated at home in Scotland in roughly the same time period. What I hoped to find was some factual account or book of a Scottish slave owner and how he ran his plantation and how he treated his slaves in the process of running the plantation.

    Alastair

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  • LuRose Williams
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    I will refrain from posting pros and cons of the slavery issue. Alistair only asked :::
    How were the exiled Scots treated by their Master.....This can be in any country the Scots were shipped to after the Clearances..He is only making a comparison.

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  • Kelly d
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    Gordon,

    Everything I have read about the poor Irish it really will make one tremble with fury. After the mass migration from the potato famine, many Irish families had make shift metal boxes to live outside the huge steel companies in Pennsylvania. They had absolutely nothing and barely earned enough to feed their families cabbage soup. During the Mexican American war, the Irish were sent into the swamps of Louisiana before the troops would go in.

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  • 1938 Observer
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    Irish slaves in the Caribbean
    James F. Cavanaugh - Clann Chief Herald


    There are a great many K/Cavanaughs in North America who trace their ancestry back to a Charles Cavanaugh, who arrived in Virginia, with a brother or cousin named Philemon Cavanagh (Felim or Phelim), on or about 1700. Their descendants most often spell their name with a C, although a variety of both C and K spellings are found, even within the same immediate family. They were originally concentrated in the Southeastern United States, particularly Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia, but now spread to everywhere. Although long standing family traditions trace Charles and Philemon of 1700 arrival back to Colonel Charles Cavanaugh of Carrickduff and Clonmullen, (the son of Sir Morgan Cavanagh, the son of Donnal Spanaigh Cavanagh), a recorded link still evades researchers.

    Punishment was severe. If a plantation
    owner beat an Irish slave to death, the
    only penalty was the value of the slaves
    financial loss.

    Read on http://www.kavanaghfamily.com/articl...0030618jfc.htm

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    Although many Caribbean islands were settled, it took labor to provide the sugar on which the islands' trade would develop. Slave labor was available, but it did not become widely used until later. Instead, indentured servants would come to the island, and when their term of service was up, they would be granted land.

    Indentured Service
    White servants came to the Caribbean before most of the African slaves, but they did not always arrive in numbers large enough to serve the needs of the sugar crop. Still, not all indentured servants were obtained legally. Some were "barbadosed," which is much like the modern phrase: being "shanghaied," and were kidnapped and brought to the Caribbean.

    Each year indentured servants would arrive. Barbados, the first colony to capitalize in sugar, received many:
    Much more http://caribbean-guide.info/past.and...sugar.slavery/

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    White Slavery and Indentured Servitude in the Age of Imperialism, Part 1
    History; Posted on: 2007-04-19 22:07:54 [ Printer friendly / Instant flyer ]

    EXCLUSIVE TO WESTERN VOICES WORLD NEWS

    Part One: Irish Slaves in the West Indies

    Revisionism (n.): The radical deconstruction of established historical narratives by way of objective inquiry, which asserts a need for the re-contextualization of assumed ‘truth’.

    Introduction

    The aftermath of the recent devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina upon the predominantly Black city of New Orleans, Louisiana, followed by accusations of gross incompetence on the part of government agencies to adequately cope with it, has only further pried open the ever-widening floodgate of racial animosity which has long teemed beneath the surface of the American body politic. A recent speech delivered by Kamau Kambon, a prominent radical Black nationalist, which was aired live on a special program on C-SPAN entitled "Black Media Forum on Image of Black Americans in Mainstream Media" on October 14, 2005 provided a voice for this growing contempt for White America which has become commonplace within segments of the Black community and the radical Left. To the shock of many ordinary viewers, he explicitly called for the total extermination of all Whites as the only solution to the socio-economic problems faced by many Blacks. Although clearly an extremist among many of his peers, the basic historical notions and accompanying “perpetual victim-hood” narrative used by Kambon to justify this sentiment have actually become strongly rooted in popular culture and thus taken for granted over the last few generations.


    More http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=396

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    These are just a few references of many......I just used the Google search term....... 'white slaves in Caribbean'

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